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Post by sabongero on Jun 2, 2017 21:43:22 GMT -5
Jean Grey was still alive at this time. This was during the Grant Morrison run on X-Men. Would something like this be considered cheating? I know in our world it has to be a physical experience.However, in our world this is impossible. Please let me know. Thanks. X-Men #136:    |
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Post by Icctrombone on Jun 3, 2017 8:09:36 GMT -5
In the Bible Jesus said that if you lust after a woman in your mind , you've already committed adultery. But even that aside, I think this qualifies.
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Post by badwolf on Jun 3, 2017 10:30:41 GMT -5
Yes. He's not just daydreaming about her, he's actually with her.
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Post by Roquefort Raider on Jun 3, 2017 11:25:53 GMT -5
It is cheating, and so is this.  I feel I must defend my man Scott, because most of comicdom points accusing fingers at him while giving Logan and Jean a free pass. I'd like to point out that when Emma tried to make their relationship physical, Scott refused. Clearly the marriage was on the rocks, and Jean and Scott couldn't talk to each other anymore. I wish that aspect had been explored more deeply instead of being used as soap opera fodder. It would have been interesting to see how two lovebirds can grow apart because of circumstances, losing the passion of the early days. It would have been all the more interesting because these two share a cosmic-sized bond (an aspect which, I'm sure, helped strain their relationship). Still, Jean's last words were calling Scott her best friend. I think that's the most beautiful thing one human being can say to another. |
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Post by sabongero on Jun 3, 2017 11:37:20 GMT -5
It is cheating, and so is this. I feel I must defend my man Scott, because most of comicdom points accusing fingers at him while giving Logan and Jean a free pass. I'd like to point out that when Emma tried to make their relationship physical, Scott refused. Clearly the marriage was on the rocks, and Jean and Scott couldn't talk to each other anymore. I wish that aspect had been explored more deeply instead of being used as soap opera fodder. It would have been interesting to see how two lovebirds can grow apart because of circumstances, losing the passion of the early days. It would have been all the more interesting because these two share a cosmic-sized bond (an aspect which, I'm sure, helped strain their relationship). Still, Jean's last words were calling Scott her best friend. I think that's the most beautiful thing one human being can say to another. Wow! I didn't even know that Jean and Logan actually consumated their relationship sometime during her revival. Thanks for posting this Roquefort. |
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Post by Roquefort Raider on Jun 3, 2017 12:18:57 GMT -5
It is cheating, and so is this. I feel I must defend my man Scott, because most of comicdom points accusing fingers at him while giving Logan and Jean a free pass. I'd like to point out that when Emma tried to make their relationship physical, Scott refused. Clearly the marriage was on the rocks, and Jean and Scott couldn't talk to each other anymore. I wish that aspect had been explored more deeply instead of being used as soap opera fodder. It would have been interesting to see how two lovebirds can grow apart because of circumstances, losing the passion of the early days. It would have been all the more interesting because these two share a cosmic-sized bond (an aspect which, I'm sure, helped strain their relationship). Still, Jean's last words were calling Scott her best friend. I think that's the most beautiful thing one human being can say to another. Wow! I didn't even know that Jean and Logan actually consumated their relationship sometime during her revival. Thanks for posting this Roquefort. Oh, don't worry: it never went beyond kissing. Still, Scott wasn't the only one finding a friendly ear somewhere else. |
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Post by The Captain on Jun 3, 2017 12:52:15 GMT -5
Wow! I didn't even know that Jean and Logan actually consumated their relationship sometime during her revival. Thanks for posting this Roquefort. Oh, don't worry: it never went beyond kissing. Still, Scott wasn't the only one finding a friendly ear somewhere else. In Jean and Logan's defense, they were trapped inside another mutant's subconscious and thought they were going to be blinked out of existence, so Logan kissed her as what he thought would be his last act in life. Less a planned and calculated betrayal like Scott and Emma were doing, more of a "we're going to die, so what the hell" sort of thing. |
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Post by Phil Maurice on Jun 3, 2017 15:38:27 GMT -5
Asking for a friend?  |
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Post by Roquefort Raider on Jun 3, 2017 16:01:42 GMT -5
Oh, don't worry: it never went beyond kissing. Still, Scott wasn't the only one finding a friendly ear somewhere else. In Jean and Logan's defense, they were trapped inside another mutant's subconscious and thought they were going to be blinked out of existence, so Logan kissed her as what he thought would be his last act in life. Less a planned and calculated betrayal like Scott and Emma were doing, more of a "we're going to die, so what the hell" sort of thing. Those are indeed mitigating circumstances, but they couldn't be invoked a few weeks later when Jean went to Logan to complain about how she and Scott had problems and ended up kissing him. (That was just before the Shi'ar, led by Cassandra Nova, came to destroy the X-Men again). Luckily, Logan had the clairvoyance to realize that "it would never work between us, darling". In fact, under Morrison's pen, Logan acted like a good friend to the Summers-Gry couple; I found that role far more appropriate (and mature) than that of the third summit of a triangle. I must admit that I never cared for the "Logan and Jean have the hots for each other" retcon, even if it is Chris Claremont himself who introduced it in "classic X-Men". Early issues of the new X-Men (and one of Iron Fist) made it clear that Logan's infatuation with Jean was not reciprocated, and he promptly found his true love in Mariko Yashida; I would have left things well enough alone. |
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