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Post by beccabear67 on Feb 24, 2020 14:20:05 GMT -5
People do fly unaided all the time: in their dreams. Comics (and some would say movies) are like dreams. Personally though I never seem to fly in my dreams... I have gone super-fast and also walked on air or just hovered. Maybe Dr. Strange is the way to go?
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Post by badwolf on Feb 24, 2020 14:35:29 GMT -5
My dreams are always very mundane. Weird and nonsensical, but mundane.
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Post by Duragizer on Feb 24, 2020 15:41:33 GMT -5
Are there any superheroes which exist/operate only in elaborate dream worlds? I'd like to read those comics.
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Post by Prince Hal on Feb 24, 2020 15:50:40 GMT -5
Are there any superheroes which exist/operate only in elaborate dream worlds? I'd like to read those comics. Maybe this version of Sandman?
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Post by The Captain on Feb 24, 2020 16:05:23 GMT -5
Sometimes it's just better to make up your own magic thingie like "unstable molecules" or "adamantium" than to use a real term you don't understand like "transistors." As someone currently reading the entire run of Iron Man from the beginning, I wholeheartedly agree with this. I'm not a science guy at all, and even I know that's not how "transistors" work, and the overuse of the term in the book has almost led me to drink as much as Tony Stark does later on in the run.
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Post by MDG on Feb 24, 2020 16:07:45 GMT -5
A side note. One of the quirks of DC / Marvel was how few flying heroes Marvel had. And those that did Thor, Iron Man, etc... did have better explanations for their flight. Probably the Sliver vs Golden Age origins.
So you're saying that this is wrong?
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Post by Prince Hal on Feb 24, 2020 16:10:26 GMT -5
A side note. One of the quirks of DC / Marvel was how few flying heroes Marvel had. And those that did Thor, Iron Man, etc... did have better explanations for their flight. Probably the Sliver vs Golden Age origins.
So you're saying that this is wrong?
Poor Namor. Looks like he was impaled by a windmill blade during a tornado.
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Post by Reptisaurus! on Feb 24, 2020 16:31:23 GMT -5
Lee 'n Kirby did teach me what molecules are. Science!
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Post by Icctrombone on Feb 24, 2020 17:10:26 GMT -5
A side note. One of the quirks of DC / Marvel was how few flying heroes Marvel had. And those that did Thor, Iron Man, etc... did have better explanations for their flight. Probably the Sliver vs Golden Age origins.
So you're saying that this is wrong?
Thanks for posting this. It took me back...
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Post by kirby101 on Feb 24, 2020 17:54:08 GMT -5
What is the mechanism for flight of any Superhero? (outside "magic") We ignore physics with all comics. According to Mark Gruenwald, it was the manipulation of gravitons. I would assume through mental processes. Probably has to do with other dimensions, like Cyclops' energy beams and Hulk's mass. OHOTMU's factual, right? The problem with the mental thing for flight, which I think Byrne also used for Superman, is that they should then be able to use their minds to make other people fly.
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Post by kirby101 on Feb 24, 2020 17:54:58 GMT -5
People do fly unaided all the time: in their dreams. Comics (and some would say movies) are like dreams. Personally though I never seem to fly in my dreams... I have gone super-fast and also walked on air or just hovered. Maybe Dr. Strange is the way to go? I do fly in my dreams, usually it's more like levitating or swimming.
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Post by Nowhere Man on Feb 24, 2020 19:14:40 GMT -5
it can't be denied that a whole generation of scientists became interested in science, in part, because their imaginations were sparked by 60's Marvel comics. Um... I am going to deny that I think. I've read or heard people cite Star Trek countless times, Dan Dare, Tom Swift... but I don't think I've ever heard '60s Marvel comics cited as an inspiration for an astronaut even. I'm not saying there are absolutely no such claims made by actual scientists or science writers or general spacefolk... but I can't recall running across any. The biggest gaffe is that Iron Man was "transistor powered" I think well into the '70s. Marvel was kind of the monster heroes company whereas the DC's scientist heroes were named things like Ray Palmer, an editor of a science-fiction magazine! Editor Julius Schwartz was an agent for various sf authors and DC had people like Edmond Hamilton, Virgil Finlay and Gardner Fox getting assignments. I haven't really read of people citing DC comics as inspirational that way either but I might believe it more if there was a claim Tommy Tomorrow or Adam Strange, or some device made by Batman in his cave, sparked some kind of interest. In all of comics the only certain example I can think of, and I actually had this comic, was a Donald Duck/Scrooge short circa 1949-50 (Walt Disney's Comics & Stories) where they raised a sunken ship by loading it with ping-pong balls. That story actually did inspire someone who later used the principle to raise an actual entire sunken wreck. About as scientific as The Fantastic Four got was the psuedo-sciencey anti-matter concept to have the negative zone, and I'm 99% sure this was a Jack Kirby contribution. Old hat in pulp sf like alternate realities and timelines, but something newish for superhero comics (and still around last I'd looked). What I was trying to say was that those early Marvel comics were one of many pop culture influences that some readers who eventually went into tech/science fields were influenced by. I have no doubt that the works of SF authors like Issac Asimov and Arthur C. Clark were more direct influences, since both not only wrote great science fiction, but were actual scientists.
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Post by nerdygirl905 on Feb 28, 2020 3:17:22 GMT -5
I wanted more of Supergirl’s dreams in her early stories. They were neat.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 1, 2020 0:57:26 GMT -5
Talk about mixed messages... -M
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Post by rberman on Mar 1, 2020 1:05:02 GMT -5
That perfectly captures the schizophrenic reality of the market: Comic books in theory are mass media to be consumed, but in practice their current function is a limited edition collectible to be hoarded and never touched.
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