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Post by Dizzy D on May 1, 2019 6:08:17 GMT -5
I think just about every Marvel movie has received a tie-in comic that usually acts as a prelude to the movie or as an adaption: marvelcinematicuniverse.fandom.com/wiki/ComicsI think they were all released as digital comics, similar to what DC has been doing something with their tie-ins (see the ongoing Injustice Comics as a somewhat releated example).
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Post by Cei-U! on May 1, 2019 8:38:31 GMT -5
While I vaguely recall reading that Jimmy Olsen's father was a spy during the post-Crisis era and his mother was still around, it occurred to me today that I really have no idea what the status of his parents were pre-Crisis. I've come across the occasional Jimmy Olsen cover featuring his father - or someone purporting to be his father - but beyond the name Mark Olsen and his profession being given as archeologist, I really have no details as to what was going on between him and his son (he doesn't seem to even show up until the late Silver/early Bronze Age) or what the status of his mother was. Anyone know anything more? Jimmy's mother passed away of unspecified causes sometime during his childhood. She was never named or pictured. And there's not much more to his father's story than you already mentioned: Mark Olsen was a renowned archaeologist (a colleague of Lewis Lang, Lana's father) who was believed dead for many years until turning up alive and well. There was some suspicion of his being an imposter at first (despite looking just like Jimmy but bearded) but he turned out to be the real deal. Thereafter, he was rarely seen, spending most of his time away on expeditions. He and Jimmy had a good relationship, but Perry and Superman were the true father figures in Jimmy's life.
Cei-U! I summon the pater familias!
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Post by chadwilliam on May 1, 2019 14:13:45 GMT -5
While I vaguely recall reading that Jimmy Olsen's father was a spy during the post-Crisis era and his mother was still around, it occurred to me today that I really have no idea what the status of his parents were pre-Crisis. I've come across the occasional Jimmy Olsen cover featuring his father - or someone purporting to be his father - but beyond the name Mark Olsen and his profession being given as archeologist, I really have no details as to what was going on between him and his son (he doesn't seem to even show up until the late Silver/early Bronze Age) or what the status of his mother was. Anyone know anything more? Jimmy's mother passed away of unspecified causes sometime during his childhood. She was never named or pictured. And there's not much more to his father's story than you already mentioned: Mark Olsen was a renowned archaeologist (a colleague of Lewis Lang, Lana's father) who was believed dead for many years until turning up alive and well. There was some suspicion of his being an imposter at first (despite looking just like Jimmy but bearded) but he turned out to be the real deal. Thereafter, he was rarely seen, spending most of his time away on expeditions. He and Jimmy had a good relationship, but Perry and Superman were the true father figures in Jimmy's life.
Cei-U! I summon the pater familias!
Thanks Cei-U! It was a Jimmy Olsen cover featuring Superman declaring his regret over ever adopting Jimmy which triggered the thought "Wait, does Jimmy have parents?" in the first place. Your point about Perry ("How many times have I told you Olsen, don't call me 'Dad'!") and Superman being surrogate fathers of sorts probably played a subconscious role in the question as well.
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Post by chadwilliam on May 1, 2019 14:23:40 GMT -5
Or the addition of Alfred, created for the 1943 Columbia serial, to the Batman cast. And this perfectly solves my long held confusion over why the first Alfred story was written not by Bill Finger but Don Cameron. Having assumed that Alfred was introduced in the comics, I couldn't figure out why that first appearance was handled by a writer other than Finger, but if created by Columbia and then either picked up on or imposed upon Finger and Kane, then it makes sense that Cameron was simply handling a character he had been asked to write. I still can't quite figure why Kane didn't simply go with Willaim Austin as his model from the start unless he didn't know who would be playing the character at the time he drew the character.
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Post by rberman on May 1, 2019 21:25:06 GMT -5
Were “Official Handbook of the Marvel Universe” and the DC Who’s Who originally internal documents for continuity purposes, and then repurposed for fans?
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Post by Reptisaurus! on May 2, 2019 1:01:12 GMT -5
Were “Official Handbook of the Marvel Universe” and the DC Who’s Who originally internal documents for continuity purposes, and then repurposed for fans? I doubt it? If you have people working on projects that don't generate $$$$ for the company, you are paying people that are not generating $$$$ for the company. I could see something like this happening under a much laxer editorial system, (say Gerry Conway in the mid '70s when he was, like, 22 years old and trying to edit 50 titles) but not under Levitz or Shooter.
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Post by rberman on May 2, 2019 5:22:24 GMT -5
Were “Official Handbook of the Marvel Universe” and the DC Who’s Who originally internal documents for continuity purposes, and then repurposed for fans? I doubt it? If you have people working on projects that don't generate $$$$ for the company, you are paying people that are not generating $$$$ for the company. I could see something like this happening under a much laxer editorial system, (say Gerry Conway in the mid '70s when he was, like, 22 years old and trying to edit 50 titles) but not under Levitz or Shooter. It just seemed like the sort of thing you would want internally for reference purposes.
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Post by MDG on May 2, 2019 8:24:36 GMT -5
I doubt it? If you have people working on projects that don't generate $$$$ for the company, you are paying people that are not generating $$$$ for the company. I could see something like this happening under a much laxer editorial system, (say Gerry Conway in the mid '70s when he was, like, 22 years old and trying to edit 50 titles) but not under Levitz or Shooter. It just seemed like the sort of thing you want want internally for reference purposes. They both came out at a time where there were a lot of new readers trying to catch up on continuity. Of course, a lot was obsolete withing five years. The best part of Who's Who was some of the surprise artists who showed up in it (Dave Stevens, Michael T Gilbert, etc.).
Re: non-income generating work--one artist told me that DC wanted to have some reference of different rooms in Wayne Manor for continuity and to give to new/fill-in artists. They agreed on the price, but the artist later realized that what he assumed as the price per piece, DC offered for the total job.
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Post by codystarbuck on May 2, 2019 10:14:59 GMT -5
Were “Official Handbook of the Marvel Universe” and the DC Who’s Who originally internal documents for continuity purposes, and then repurposed for fans? Mark gruenwald was the driving force of OHOTMU and I think the basic concept was a combination pin-up book and something along the lines of the indexes that were being put out of specific titles. Who's Who was intended as a reference to coincide with Crisis, to help identify and explain the various characters that were popping up in there, like Anthro, who hadn't been seen in some time. As said, Who's Who was more fun, with the variety of artists producing pieces. OHOTMU had different artists; but, a pretty generic style to the character illustration. With DC's all kinds of people turned up, including Wayne Boring, Paul Chadwick and Dave Stevens. Later, when both did the loose-leaf format, DC's was vastly superior. Marvel's was standard character model sheets, which may have made a fine reference for artists drawing the characters, were pretty boring for fans. DC's gave you lush pin-ups, with the info on the back, so the illustration got more room. Only problem was the somewhat fragile paper, especially if you actually separated the sheets to insert them in the associated binders (which I did). DC also did a set for the Impact line, with the MLJ/Archie heroes.
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Post by codystarbuck on May 2, 2019 10:21:59 GMT -5
ps Peter Sanderson was specifically working on the research for OHOTMU and ended up putting out a book on Marvel's history and their characters. Earlier, Michael Fleischer had been going through DC's library of bound copies, researching his encyclopedias, of which 3 were released (Batman, Wonder Woman and Superman). Others were announced within the released volumes, but never came about. They had entries for about every story ever published, up to that point, with plenty of illustrations. I got the Wonder Woman one from my library and thought I had stumbled on a fetish art collection, with all of the bondage imagery from the Golden Age stories (especially the references to the "Villainy, Inc" storyline, which DC even reprinted in the modern era).
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Post by Deleted on May 3, 2019 10:05:13 GMT -5
There appear to be Batman villains that Robin has rarely/never faced. Keyword is "appear" as one cannot know every story published.
Off the top of my head, I cannot recall a Robin/Deadshot encounter. Off to Google I go...
Other than a book/vinyl set, I don't recall a Robin (Dick Grayson)/Man-Bat encounter. There was one issue where I think the Batcave got sealed off, leaving Bats alone against Man-Bat.
Has Robin ever faced the Rat-Catcher? Firefly? Kite-Man? Can't recall many or any.
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Post by chadwilliam on May 3, 2019 11:07:29 GMT -5
There appear to be Batman villains that Robin has rarely/never faced. Keyword is "appear" as one cannot know every story published. Off the top of my head, I cannot recall a Robin/Deadshot encounter. Off to Google I go... Other than a book/vinyl set, I don't recall a Robin (Dick Grayson)/Man-Bat encounter. There was one issue where I think the Batcave got sealed off, leaving Bats alone against Man-Bat. Has Robin ever faced the Rat-Catcher? Firefly? Kite-Man? Can't recall many or any. Well, Robin would have faced Deadshot , Firefly, and Kite-Man in their first appearances. Firefly was used fairly frequently by Chuck Dixon during his Detective Comics run and I'm sure that he eventually faced off against Nightwing and Robin (Tim Drake) during either the Earthquake storyline or Contagion. As for Rat-Catcher, when Dick Grayson took over for Batman during the Prodigal storyline (either in 1994 or 1995) he faced off against a bunch of villains he had never encountered before (well, never encountered according to Post-Zero Hour continuity). Rat-Catcher was one of them but this was Dick Grayson as Nightwing since he had stopped being Robin by the time the villain had been introduced. If you're OK with Tim Drake's Robin entering the mix, then he was involved too. Strangely enough, Prodigal also had Dick Grayson square off against Killer Croc for the first time and needing Tim Drake to explain who he was. I say strangely enough, because not only was Dick Grayson involved in Croc's early tales, but it was his boneheaded decision to ask Jason Todd's parents to spy on him which got them killed. It was also one of his final appearances as Robin before Jason Todd took over.
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Post by Deleted on May 3, 2019 11:18:03 GMT -5
Thanks for all that, quite a bit to track down.
I was always a Robin fan. And I was quite the fan of the more esoteric Bat-villains (Catman, Blockbuster, Firefly, Kite-Man, etc.). Was always disappointed when Robin was absent.
I would have liked to have seen Robin or Nightwing go against Bonecrusher, too.
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Post by Prince Hal on May 3, 2019 12:50:13 GMT -5
Thanks for all that, quite a bit to track down. I was always a Robin fan. And I was quite the fan of the more esoteric Bat-villains (Catman, Blockbuster, Firefly, Kite-Man, etc.). Was always disappointed when Robin was absent. I would have liked to have seen Robin or Nightwing go against Bonecrusher, too. I'll bet if you look up the villains in the GCD, you'll be able to see which other characters appeared with them in their stories. The GCD usually ahs that info. So does Mike at his ultra-super-mega best site: Mike's Amazing World (which is truth in advertising, trust me.)http://www.mikesamazingworld.com/mikes/index.php For instance, Robin was indeed in the first Earth-One Firefly story back in 1952 in Detective 184.
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Post by Deleted on May 3, 2019 13:35:46 GMT -5
Thanks for that, not sure I've been on that site.
I certainly would have loved more Robin VS Man-Bat encounters as a kid. I was always disappointed when he didn't show up. Blockbuster is another 'villain' I like, but I only recall Bats and Robin facing him once. After that, it was all solo Bats VS Blockbuster.
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