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Post by Confessor on Apr 20, 2019 18:25:02 GMT -5
So my son is playing some game that has Dr Strange and The Defenders in it. So he asks me what is Strange like in the comics compared to the movies. Well off the top of head I gave him the below issues to check out. Then in hindsight I remember Strange banishing Hulk right before the Grey Hulk saga by David. Anyone else have any good Strange suggestions? It may even be Comics I own but I’m not remembering. Since I don’t actually own any of Strange’s own title. upload imgWell, Dr. Strange initially appeared in Strange Tales in the Silver Age, and that's where the Steve Ditko period was. The Ditko era is the essential foundation of Strange and still a "must read". The Steve Englehart period began in issues of Marvel Premiere (think #10 was the first), though it soon moved on to Strange's own series. The Ditko and Englehart eras are the twin peaks of Dr. Strange, as far as I'm concerned. Edit: Also, the second Amazing Spider-Man annual had a great team-up between Spidey and Dr. Strange.
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Post by Cei-U! on Apr 20, 2019 19:25:49 GMT -5
So my son is playing some game that has Dr Strange and The Defenders in it. So he asks me what is Strange like in the comics compared to the movies. Well off the top of head I gave him the below issues to check out. Then in hindsight I remember Strange banishing Hulk right before the Grey Hulk saga by David. Anyone else have any good Strange suggestions? It may even be Comics I own but I’m not remembering. Since I don’t actually own any of Strange’s own title. upload imgSee if you can track down Volume 1 of The Essential Doctor Strange. It has the entire original Strange Tales run, not only all the Ditko stories but those by Bill Everett, Marie Severin, and Dan Adkins as well (plus a decent George Tuska fill-in). I don't have a copy because I have all the Strange Tales issues.
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Post by wildfire2099 on Apr 20, 2019 19:47:24 GMT -5
There's also a couple epic volumes if the essential is hard to find or you want color... 'Master of the Mystic Arts' is the first volume with the Ditko stuff.. there's alot 'A Separate Reality' which is Roy Thomas up through Englehart (at least some of Englehart)
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Post by codystarbuck on Apr 20, 2019 21:31:08 GMT -5
My knowledge is 30 years out of date, though I can say that DragonCon is the main show in Atlanta; but that is usually around Labor Day Weekend. I went to the Atlanta Fantasy Fair, back in '91; but it ended in 1995. Don't know much beyond that. A google search turned up Criminal Records, at 1154 Euclid Ave NE; Oxford Comics & Games, at 2855 Piedmont Rd; Titan Comics, at 2512 Cobb Pkwy, Smyrna. Here's a Yelp entry, with info...Hope that helps. I've been to Dragon Con the last few years. The exhibitor space has become a nightmare, because attendance has ballooned (I think last year had 80k people), but content (including vendors) has not increased. There's over an hour wait to get inside the vendor hall, and once you're in, it's wall to wall bodies on every single aisle. It seems to me they should increase the ticket price and decrease the vendor fees to encourage more participation. Also, they need to rent an arena for plenary sessions of the most popular speakers, because as it is right now, you can only attend about two events a day; the rest of your time is spent waiting in line for those two. If you don't get in line two hours before your event, you generally won't get in. Is San Diego Comic Con the same way? I'd pay more for a better experience. I haven't been to a major con since the 90s; but, that's the kind of thing I hear. For San Diego, it's all about Hollywood, now. Again, experience is old; but, HereosCon, in Charlotte, NC, was always a good one, both for comic content (and lots of accessible pros) and vendors. Plus, it is very family friendly. The 91 Atlanta Fantasy Fair was my first large one (relatively speaking) and I had a good time there. It was within driving distance of Charleston, SC, where I was stationed and had several pros, though not any massive superstars. I got a sketch of the real Captain Marvel, from Joe Staton (and he signed my E-Man #1), bought a ton of stuff from my want list (including some Sterankos, Starlins, and a few others along those lines), found Mike Grell's Starslayer Portfolio, as well as Paul Gulacy's Black Widow one, and really cool books about the British Avengers tv series and The Wild Wild West (before Barry Sonenfeld and Jon Peters ruined it). HeroesCon '92 was my first with large amounts of big name pros, as I met Gil Kane, Dave Dorman, Kieth Giffen, Adam Hughes and most of the Legion creative teams, as well as Julie Schwartz. George Perez was there; but, didn't get a chance to see him. I blew a big chunk of my budget ($100) on a copy of Exciting Comics #10, with the first appearance of the Black terror, then was disappointed by how generic the story was and amateurish the art was. After that, I made a rule not to spend more than $50 on any single comic, without a damn good reason. Seriously, the black & white Mort Meskin & Jerry Robinson Black Terror stories, reprinted by AC Comics, were a much better deal and I got those, with others, for under $5. That really cured me of the collector mentality.
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Post by Roquefort Raider on Apr 26, 2019 13:38:34 GMT -5
Back in the day, there were lots of movie adaptations in our comics... From miniseries like Logan's run to Super Specials adapting Raiders of the Lost Ark, Jaws II or Meteor.
When there were comic-book based films like Donner's Superman or Burton's Batman, we'd also get a film.
But now that superhero movies are all the rage, I notice a dearth of adaptations... Has any of the MCU films been adapted in comic-book form? And what was the last movie adaptation you came across?
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Post by rberman on Apr 26, 2019 13:49:44 GMT -5
The MCU movies were adapted from comic books, so...
Also, nobody seeing the movies wants to buy comic books.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 26, 2019 14:26:11 GMT -5
Back in the day, there were lots of movie adaptations in our comics... From miniseries like Logan's run to Super Specials adapting Raiders of the Lost Ark, Jaws II or Meteor. When there were comic-book based films like Donner's Superman or Burton's Batman, we'd also get a film. But now that superhero movies are all the rage, I notice a dearth of adaptations... Has any of the MCU films been adapted in comic-book form? And what was the last movie adaptation you came across? Movie adaptations sold in an era before home video allowed you to revisit favorites. or many, it was the only way to re-experience a movie after it left theatres. Movie adaptations got fewer and farther between once home video became readily available, and now in the age of streaming, there is pretty much zero audience for it. That said, Marvel has done adaptations of Episodes VII and VIII, Rogue One and Solo in their Star Wars line, and they have a line of cinematic universe Preludes they do before a movie is released setting up some of the aspects of the film (I only picked up the Doctor Strange Prelude issues, none of the others, but they have doen them for several, but not all the films. But really, the market impetus for adaptations is missing in the age of home video, so I think it is perfectly understandable why they would no longer do them. -M
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Post by brutalis on Apr 26, 2019 14:31:11 GMT -5
Considering the difficulty in keeping the movie scripts secret until the Premiere, how much more difficult would it be then in trying to do a comic of the movie and keeping that secret as well? Besides Marvel has chosen for just changing the comics to reflect the movies anymore for the most part.
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Post by rberman on Apr 26, 2019 14:55:37 GMT -5
Back in the day, there were lots of movie adaptations in our comics... From miniseries like Logan's run to Super Specials adapting Raiders of the Lost Ark, Jaws II or Meteor. When there were comic-book based films like Donner's Superman or Burton's Batman, we'd also get a film. But now that superhero movies are all the rage, I notice a dearth of adaptations... Has any of the MCU films been adapted in comic-book form? And what was the last movie adaptation you came across? Movie adaptations sold in an era before home video allowed you to revisit favorites. or many, it was the only way to re-experience a movie after it left theatres. Movie adaptations got fewer and farther between once home video became readily available, and now in the age of streaming, there is pretty much zero audience for it. That said, Marvel has done adaptations of Episodes VII and VIII, Rogue One and Solo in their Star Wars line, and they have a line of cinematic universe Preludes they do before a movie is released setting up some of the aspects of the film (I only picked up the Doctor Strange Prelude issues, none of the others, but they have doen them for several, but not all the films. But really, the market impetus for adaptations is missing in the age of home video, so I think it is perfectly understandable why they would no longer do them. -M True. In the same vein, Were novelizations published fo the last few Star Wars films? Novelizations used to be a big thing.
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Post by Roquefort Raider on Apr 26, 2019 15:28:39 GMT -5
The MCU movies were adapted from comic books, so... Well, not quite; they took bits and pieces from the comics and put them in movies, but the films aren’t straight adaptations like 300 or Sin City were. Besides, the several Superman and Batman films were in the same boat. (Wasn’t there even a *gulp* Howard the duck movie adaptation?) That’s my impression too, and a source of irritation when the comics are changed to better reflect the films. I much preferred the pre-movie version of Guardians of the galaxy (for all that they didn’t sell enough to keep published).
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Post by adamwarlock2099 on Apr 26, 2019 15:48:02 GMT -5
That’s my impression too, and a source of irritation when the comics are changed to better reflect the films. I much preferred the pre-movie version of Guardians of the galaxy (for all that they didn’t sell enough to keep published). A like of this post wasn't enough because I couldn't agree more. This is a case of the source material "ruined" (depending on a person's preference) and thereby changed by the popularity of a movie adaptation.
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Post by Cei-U! on Apr 26, 2019 17:05:07 GMT -5
Comics have always accommodated changes to their characters made in other media. Witness the switch in the comics from the Daily Star and George Taylor to the Superman radio series' Daily Planet and Perry White. Or the addition of Alfred, created for the 1943 Columbia serial, to the Batman cast. Or the total overhaul of the Wonder Woman book because of the '70s TV series (and its change back once the show ws axed). I could give you a dozen other examples. It's damn near a tradition.
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Post by zilch on Apr 26, 2019 17:30:23 GMT -5
... Or the addition of Alfred, created for the 1943 Columbia serial, to the Batman cast... Wow! I did not know that!
Or the return of Alfred (after being killed off) to reflect the Batman television series.
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Post by codystarbuck on Apr 26, 2019 21:52:06 GMT -5
Back in the day, there were lots of movie adaptations in our comics... From miniseries like Logan's run to Super Specials adapting Raiders of the Lost Ark, Jaws II or Meteor. When there were comic-book based films like Donner's Superman or Burton's Batman, we'd also get a film. But now that superhero movies are all the rage, I notice a dearth of adaptations... Has any of the MCU films been adapted in comic-book form? And what was the last movie adaptation you came across? Movie adaptations sold in an era before home video allowed you to revisit favorites. or many, it was the only way to re-experience a movie after it left theatres. Movie adaptations got fewer and farther between once home video became readily available, and now in the age of streaming, there is pretty much zero audience for it. That said, Marvel has done adaptations of Episodes VII and VIII, Rogue One and Solo in their Star Wars line, and they have a line of cinematic universe Preludes they do before a movie is released setting up some of the aspects of the film (I only picked up the Doctor Strange Prelude issues, none of the others, but they have doen them for several, but not all the films. But really, the market impetus for adaptations is missing in the age of home video, so I think it is perfectly understandable why they would no longer do them. -M Same with movie tie-in books/novelizations. The market died for them when you could pull up clips on youtube and such. These days, any media tie-ins are either source material, prequels, or use the movie as a jumping off point.
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Post by chadwilliam on Apr 30, 2019 20:03:58 GMT -5
While I vaguely recall reading that Jimmy Olsen's father was a spy during the post-Crisis era and his mother was still around, it occurred to me today that I really have no idea what the status of his parents were pre-Crisis. I've come across the occasional Jimmy Olsen cover featuring his father - or someone purporting to be his father - but beyond the name Mark Olsen and his profession being given as archeologist, I really have no details as to what was going on between him and his son (he doesn't seem to even show up until the late Silver/early Bronze Age) or what the status of his mother was. Anyone know anything more?
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