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Post by Deleted on Jan 29, 2020 12:13:07 GMT -5
Well put, Cody.
It is a shame. No-one should suffer for their father's sins. In wrestling or elsewhere.
We do live in such a world, sadly. I suspect someone might have a hard time being employed at an intelligence agency if their father had been a criminal. It's a shame. And I don't know what the rules would be. I can certainly envision police forces not employing someone because of what a parent would have done.
I wish him all the luck in the world.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 29, 2020 12:39:01 GMT -5
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Post by codystarbuck on Jan 29, 2020 19:46:23 GMT -5
Bischoff wouldn't know the truth if you shave off it's dyed locks and revealed iron grey underneath.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 30, 2020 8:57:47 GMT -5
Some words from Akeem: The One Man Gang on his transition to Akeem, if it was a rib on Dusty Rhodes, changing gimmicksI was a fan of the Twin Towers - and their dominance. While I was sad to see them split up, it was great seeing Big Boss Man turn face and feud with the likes of Ted DiBiase. I was a Big Boss Man fan. Every feud of his was one I enjoyed. I did enjoy him as The Boss in WCW, but I presume the WWF stopped that gimmick. He became the Guardian Angel - and then Big Bubba Rogers again. Not sure his career was ever the same after that.
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Post by codystarbuck on Jan 30, 2020 13:34:51 GMT -5
Some words from Akeem: The One Man Gang on his transition to Akeem, if it was a rib on Dusty Rhodes, changing gimmicksI was a fan of the Twin Towers - and their dominance. While I was sad to see them split up, it was great seeing Big Boss Man turn face and feud with the likes of Ted DiBiase. I was a Big Boss Man fan. Every feud of his was one I enjoyed. I did enjoy him as The Boss in WCW, but I presume the WWF stopped that gimmick. He became the Guardian Angel - and then Big Bubba Rogers again. Not sure his career was ever the same after that. WWF blew it by turning George Gray from One Man Gang to Akeem. One Man Gang was a monster gimmick and it was over huge in Mid-South, World Class and Mid-Atlantic. Vince just wouldn't put over gimmicks he didn't create. I saw George, first, as Crusher Broomfield and didn't immediately realize he was On Man Gang (I just knew the name was swiped from Ronnie Garvin, who was known as the One Man Gang in Knoxville and for the Poffos). I preferred Big Bubba Rogers. The gimmick was more realistic than the Bossman thing (despite it being part of his actual past). A wrestling prison guard is kid stuff. A big bad-ass Southern boy, named Bubba Rogers, was believable. Also, he did so much more as Big Bubba tha he did in WWF rings, because the NWA had a much higher standard of ring work. The problem with a lot of guys was that after they had done a gimmick on the high profile WWF stage, they couldn't really continue after. In most cases, they couldn't continue the gimmick and they usually couldn't go back to their old gimmick. The only guys who could really do it were those that wrestled as themselves, with the possible exception of Scott Hall, though he was mostly himself before going to the WWF and Razor Ramon was the Diamond Stud with a bad Cuban accent. Nash was never over, but rode Hall and Michaels' coattails.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 31, 2020 8:35:04 GMT -5
Although I'd read Apter mags, I didn't read WWF Magazine until the May 1990 issue. So this was my first experience of a WWF publication: I wish I still had it. So many great articles inside, including a review of a Bret/Shawn singles match (obviously long before Montreal), plus kayfabe articles about the Powers of Pain, Orient Express, Earthquake, etc. What was your first wrestling magazine?
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Post by codystarbuck on Jan 31, 2020 13:51:20 GMT -5
First wrestling magazine was pro wrestling illustrated, one of the Apter mags. I was soon getting it and Inside Wrestling (sometimes The Wrestler) nearly every month. PWI was the best of the bunch, with coverage of the major angles, while Inside Wrestling had a monthly listing of the major titles around the globe, so you could track title changes. They had a few quirks, like calling Memphis the Mid-Southern territory. I read a few of the Starlog group magazines; but, their coverage was rather limited and heavy WWF. Once in a while you had profiles of smaller promotions, which is where I first saw Bret Hart, in an article about him and Stampede, before he went to the WWF. Once I discovered Wrestling Eye, though, it became the main magazine. It featured a mix of kayfabe coverage and peaks at real title histories and who some wrestlers really were. Wrestling Eye also covered some of the indie groups, where you'd see names like The Cheetah Kid and the Tazmaniac, who would go on to become Flyboy Rocco Rock (Public Enemy) and Taz, respectively.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 31, 2020 13:59:03 GMT -5
Not sure Wrestling Eye ever made it to these shores.
PWI did - and consistently - but the other Apter mags were hit and miss. For three months, the corner store might have consecutive issues of Sports Review Wrestling, but then the month after that, it might be Inside Wrestling.
The Starlog mags made it over here, but only sporadically.
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Post by codystarbuck on Feb 1, 2020 0:42:13 GMT -5
Wrestling Eye also covered women's wrestling more, as can be seen by Medusa, on the cover (interesting pose, I might add). You also used to see Misty Blue Simms, Linda Dallas and Kat Leroux, who all worked together in indies,; Bambi and Peggy Lee Leather (who worked the South), Candi Devine, Heidi Lee Morgan, Sherri Martel, Moolah's troupe, and bits of the Japanese women (you got snippets of them in the Apter mags). There was also New Wave Wrestling, which covered similar territory as Wrestling Eye, but started later. They used to have a regular international rundown that covered Japan, Mexico, Nigeria, South Africa and Germany. I remember seeing some of the Norm Keitzer magas on the newsstand, but not so much after the mid-80s. They used to be the chief competition for the Apter mags (published by Stanley Weston), but they were bigger on blood. Bobby Heenan used to feature on a lot of them, in the late 60s and 70s, as he bled buckets for Dick the Bruiser. Dusty, the Sheik and Abdullah the Butcher could always be counted on for bloody cover photos. Made the detective magazines look like the Saturday Evening Post! I always liked this PWI cover of Mil Mascaras (with his Alianza Latinoamericana de Lucha Libre World Title belt) (the title came from a lucha promotion in Guatemala, in the mid-70s. Mil continued to defend it after the promotion was gone, along with his IWA World title, from the defunct US promotion) He looks like a superhero, that was one of my favorite masks, and the ALLL belt looks really classy.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 1, 2020 9:16:41 GMT -5
I've had to correct the acronym for this headline as there was no WWE in 1990 (glad to have fixed it): The WWF Almost Turned The Ultimate Warrior Or Hulk Hogan HeelI'm glad Warrior wasn't turned heel. I can understand that the formula back then was for Hogan to vanquish a heel, but at the time of this, I remember being in awe at the prospect of the top two fan favourites going at it. It felt like Superman vs Batman. I did read that the WWF wanted to turn Warrior heel in 1992 for the Savage match at SummerSlam 1992.
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Post by codystarbuck on Feb 1, 2020 12:19:00 GMT -5
Warrior had been a heel with Sting and in World Class but was terrible at it. The heel is supposed to call the match and he was incapable of it.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 1, 2020 12:43:24 GMT -5
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Post by codystarbuck on Feb 1, 2020 22:41:51 GMT -5
This is why I never set foot near a tanning salon, no matter how much I was pasty white. Way more UV exposure than in the sun and they are not staffed or serviced by professionals. Wrestlers lived in those things.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 2, 2020 9:59:33 GMT -5
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Post by codystarbuck on Feb 2, 2020 22:16:38 GMT -5
He isn't. His knees were shot years ago and he had pretty hefty back surgery a few years back. I doubt Hogan will wrestle a match, any more than Flair has, with his health issues. Probably involved in angles to pop ratings and attendance.
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