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Post by Slam_Bradley on Feb 7, 2019 19:54:49 GMT -5
If I get a bit of time I'll try to put together a Bakersfield playlist for you. That'd be awesome! I didn't want to get too deep. And there's probably an over abundance of Merle and Buck. I likely should have included something by The Maddox Boys and Rose also. “A Dear John Letter” — Fuzzy Owen and Bonnie Owens “Louisiana Swing” – Bud Hobbs You Better Not Do That – Tommy Collins “Playboy” — Wynn Stewart "A Dear John Letter" – Jean Shephard “Act Naturally” — Buck Owens "Sing Me Back Home" - Merle Haggard “Love’s Gonna Live Here” — Buck Owens “The Bottle Let Me Down” — Merle Haggard “Together Again” — Buck Owens “Mama Tried” — Merle Haggard “You’ll Never Miss the Water (Til The Well Runs Dry)” — The Buckaroos “Guitar Pickin’ Man” — Don Rich and the Buckaroos “L.A. International Airport” – Susan Raye “Streets of Bakersfield” – Dwight Yoakam and Buck Owens
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Post by beccabear67 on Feb 7, 2019 21:04:20 GMT -5
An alternative companion to that might be a CD I have (Ace/Big Beat) titled 'Bakersfield Rebels'. It had some great stuff by the Gosdin Brothers, Gib Guilbeau, Gene Parsons, Jan and Gary Paxton, and The Reasons with Clarence White among others. There was also a collection of Reasons/Nashville West with Clarence White from them released around the same time. Bakersfield Rebels at 45worlds.com
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Post by Confessor on Feb 7, 2019 21:39:31 GMT -5
I didn't want to get too deep. And there's probably an over abundance of Merle and Buck. I likely should have included something by The Maddox Boys and Rose also. “A Dear John Letter” — Fuzzy Owen and Bonnie Owens “Louisiana Swing” – Bud Hobbs You Better Not Do That – Tommy Collins “Playboy” — Wynn Stewart "A Dear John Letter" – Jean Shephard “Act Naturally” — Buck Owens "Sing Me Back Home" - Merle Haggard “Love’s Gonna Live Here” — Buck Owens “The Bottle Let Me Down” — Merle Haggard “Together Again” — Buck Owens “Mama Tried” — Merle Haggard “You’ll Never Miss the Water (Til The Well Runs Dry)” — The Buckaroos “Guitar Pickin’ Man” — Don Rich and the Buckaroos “L.A. International Airport” – Susan Raye “Streets of Bakersfield” – Dwight Yoakam and Buck Owens Fantastic! Thanks for that. I'll give those tracks a listen. An alternative companion to that might be a CD I have (Ace/Big Beat) titled 'Bakersfield Rebels'. It had some great stuff by the Gosdin Brothers, Gib Guilbeau, Gene Parsons, Jan and Gary Paxton, and The Reasons with Clarence White among others. There was also a collection of Reasons/Nashville West with Clarence White from them released around the same time. Bakersfield Rebels at 45worlds.comThis CD has been on my "Wants List" for ages. I have the Country & West Coast compilation that Big Beat put out around the same time as this. I also have the Clarence White CD too, which was called something like Tough & Stringy, I believe.
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Post by berkley on Feb 8, 2019 0:20:09 GMT -5
This is great information, I'll be adding a lot of these Everly Brothers and Buddy Holly suggestions to my hunting list. Probably some of the Bakersfield stuff too, though this is the first I ever heard of it, to be honest. I recognise several of the names without being very familiar with their music, apart from a few radio hits or much-covered songs that everyone's heard.
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Post by berkley on Feb 9, 2019 23:17:18 GMT -5
Those Pink Floyd favourites on the Random List thread remind me of a question I'd like to throw out to any Floyd fans: are any of the post-Waters albums any good? I've heard only a few songs from that era on the radio: they sounded all right, but didn't entice me to try a full album.
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Post by Confessor on Feb 10, 2019 0:59:48 GMT -5
Those Pink Floyd favourites on the Random List thread remind me of a question I'd like to throw out to any Floyd fans: are any of the post-Waters albums any good? I've heard only a few songs from that era on the radio: they sounded all right, but didn't entice me to try a full album. I dunno, but I doubt it. Two of my oldest friends are really big Floyd fans and they reckon that the post-Waters stuff isn't worth bothering with at all. Myself, I lose interest in Pink Floyd somewhere around the Wish You Were Here album, so I'm not exactly the right person to ask about the band's latter period. My favourite Floyd stuff is the really early Syd Barrett era, but some of those late '60s/early '70s albums like Ummagumma, Atom Heart Mother and Meddle are nice records too. Dark Side of the Moon is a bit of a classic, of course.
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Post by Confessor on Feb 10, 2019 18:49:46 GMT -5
...I likely should have included something by The Maddox Boys and Rose also. OK, so I'm knocking up a Bakersfield Sound compilation CD using your playlist (plus a few additions that Wikipedia tells me are essential Bakersfield Sound artists, such as Joe Maphis and Freddie Hart), but I'm wondering what Maddox Brothers and Rose track you'd pick for the Bakersfield neophyte, Slam? Looking online, it seems as if they only just caught the tail end of the Bakersfield era anyway, since they disbanded in 1956. Most of their stuff dates from the '30s, '40s and early '50s. Is there a particular song of their's that you would've picked and which perhaps epitomises the Bakersfield Sound? Or maybe a late '50s/early '60s solo track by Rose Maddox would be a better fit?
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Post by Slam_Bradley on Feb 10, 2019 21:58:58 GMT -5
...I likely should have included something by The Maddox Boys and Rose also. OK, so I'm knocking up a Bakersfield Sound compilation CD using your playlist (plus a few additions that Wikipedia tells me are essential Bakersfield Sound artists, such as Joe Maphis and Freddie Hart), but I'm wondering what Maddox Brothers and Rose track you'd pick for the Bakersfield neophyte, Slam? Looking online, it seems as if they only just caught the tail end of the Bakersfield era anyway, since they disbanded in 1956. Most of their stuff dates from the '30s, '40s and early '50s. Is there a particular song of their's that you would've picked and which perhaps epitomises the Bakersfield Sound? Or maybe a late '50s/early '60s solo track by Rose Maddox would be a better fit? I included the Maddox Brothers and Rose more for their influence than the actual sound. They were hugely influential on pretty much everyone who came out of Bakersfield and Southern California in general. The genesis of the Bakersfield sound was the influx of dust bowl refugees from Oklahoma, Notrth Texas and Arkansas. The Maddox’s frequently played refugee camps, dance halls and other venues where these displaced people gathered. They directly influenced pretty much every first generation Bakersfield artist. As for suggestions...”Shimmy Shakin’ Daddy”...”Milk Cow Blues”...it’s really more influence than actual sound.
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Post by Confessor on Feb 10, 2019 23:17:50 GMT -5
OK, so I'm knocking up a Bakersfield Sound compilation CD using your playlist (plus a few additions that Wikipedia tells me are essential Bakersfield Sound artists, such as Joe Maphis and Freddie Hart), but I'm wondering what Maddox Brothers and Rose track you'd pick for the Bakersfield neophyte, Slam? Looking online, it seems as if they only just caught the tail end of the Bakersfield era anyway, since they disbanded in 1956. Most of their stuff dates from the '30s, '40s and early '50s. Is there a particular song of their's that you would've picked and which perhaps epitomises the Bakersfield Sound? Or maybe a late '50s/early '60s solo track by Rose Maddox would be a better fit? I included the Maddox Brothers and Rose more for their influence than the actual sound. They were hugely influential on pretty much everyone who came out of Bakersfield and Southern California in general. The genesis of the Bakersfield sound was the influx of dust bowl refugees from Oklahoma, Notrth Texas and Arkansas. The Maddox’s frequently played refugee camps, dance halls and other venues where these displaced people gathered. They directly influenced pretty much every first generation Bakersfield artist. As for suggestions...”Shimmy Shakin’ Daddy”...”Milk Cow Blues”...it’s really more influence than actual sound. Ah, gotcha! In that case, I think I might go with the Buck Owens and Rose Maddox duet "Loose Talk" from 1961 instead. I found that on YouTube and it definitely has a more classic Bakersfield sound and is more in keeping with the other tracks you've suggested.
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Post by brianf on Feb 11, 2019 2:30:57 GMT -5
Seattle has been snow locked for about a week - damn you hills! I assume the Snow Dog has been about
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Post by Confessor on Feb 12, 2019 15:19:09 GMT -5
Firstly, regarding the Mirror's headline there, I fail to see what's "completely legit" about any of those usual, so-called clues that that article cites. But secondly, this rumour won't die because a) there are a lot of idiots out there who believe s**t like that, and b) Paul McCartney's publicity team use it to keep him in the public eye, and are likely behind that very article. I mean, McCartney's latest album died a pretty quick death commercially -- and rightly so: it was rubbish! -- so they gotta do something. Besides, Macca loves playing with this rumour, and has done since the conspiracy theory first broke in 1969. Of course, like most conspiracy theories, it doesn't stand up to even the most cursory of examinations. Like, are we seriously supposed to believe that they not only found an exact look-a-like -- not someone who looked uncannily like Paul McCartney, mind you, but someone who looked exactly like him -- and that person also had the same voice as him -- again, not a similar voice, but a voice that was exactly the same -- could play bass guitar left-handed, and, furthermore, just happened to have McCartney's colossal talent for pop composition and melody? Yeah, like most conspiracy theories, if you believe them then it's a sign of underlying mental health issues, rather than you being "woke".
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Post by Confessor on Feb 20, 2019 8:13:35 GMT -5
I found out yesterday that one of favourite bands has split up...back in 2016! I thought they'd been a bit quiet lately. R.I.P. I Am Kloot, 1999-2016. You were f**king great, and the times we went laughing, singing and crying together were the best. Here's a couple of my favourite songs by them...
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Post by berkley on Mar 3, 2019 3:08:07 GMT -5
I could play only the first of those two videos due to one of those seemingly random border restriction messages, but I liked that one a lot. Is it pretty indicative of their sound in general? I'll have to seek out a little more of their stuff.
This reminds me - what was the name of your band and when was it active? I remember being very impressed with a video you posted one time a while ago, I forget where (which thread) or when. Would you mind posting it here?
And another, more general question: I Am Kloot's lifespan from 1999 to 2016, how would you characterise that in terms of the UK or global pop music scene? A continuation of the Britpop explosion of the earlier 90s? A reaction against it? I'm asking from a place of complete ignorance, so forgive me if these questions don't make any sense.
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Post by Confessor on Mar 3, 2019 11:15:27 GMT -5
I could play only the first of those two videos due to one of those seemingly random border restriction messages, but I liked that one a lot. Is it pretty indicative of their sound in general? I'll have to seek out a little more of their stuff. Yes, it's very indicative of their sound. The second video is a bit more Beatley sounding...probably their most Beatles-influenced song, in fact. Most of their stuff sounds akin to the song "Proof" in the first video. This reminds me - what was the name of your band and when was it active? I remember being very impressed with a video you posted one time a while ago, I forget where (which thread) or when. Would you mind posting it here? Oh Lordy. Well, that's extremely nice of you to say -- and a real compliment to be compared to I Am Kloot. My old band was called The Kynd. I believe there are one or two of our videos on YouTube, if you want to search. And another, more general question: I Am Kloot's lifespan from 1999 to 2016, how would you characterise that in terms of the UK or global pop music scene? A continuation of the Britpop explosion of the earlier 90s? A reaction against it? I'm asking from a place of complete ignorance, so forgive me if these questions don't make any sense. Good question. As far as the British music press was concerned, I Am Kloot got lumped in with the New Acoustic Movement in the early 2000s, and, although the band railed against that, in all honesty, it's probably a pretty appropriate tag. That movement included the likes of Turin Brakes, Keane, Travis, Jack Johnson, and David Gray et al, and was an offshoot of the post-Britpop scene. The New Acoustic Movement certainly wasn't a reaction against '90s Britpop (after all, most of the bands from that scene were clearly influenced by the likes of Blur, Suede and Oasis -- not to mention earlier indie giants like The Stone Roses or The Smiths), but it took the swagger of Britpop and married it with a softer, more acoustic backing. At its best it produced some really good bands like I Am Kloot and Turin Brakes, but at its worst, it spawned deathly dull, instantly forgettable muzak for boring 30 or 40-somethings to play at their awful dinner parties ( see Keane, Travis, and David Gray for example). Coldplay also got lumped in with the New Acoustic Movement, at least initially. The New Acoustic Movement faded in the mid-2000s, but I Am Kloot continued on, with arguably their most critically acclaimed album, The Sky at Night, being released in 2010. By then, they were just regarded as an indie rock or alternative rock band that mostly favoured acoustic guitars, rather than being attached to any particular scene. I suppose someone discovering the band around the time of The Sky at Night might've placed them within the Indie Folk movement, along with the likes of Fleet Foxes, Bon Iver and Laura Marling, but Kloot's singer-songwriter John Bramwell has roots going right back to the "Madchester" scene of the early '90s. So yeah, in my mind they're just an acoustically driven indie rock band. Hope that helps.
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