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Post by Confessor on Jul 7, 2019 18:20:15 GMT -5
Lol...this really needs to be somebody's new signature... heroes don't lose their sanity over silly stuff like sleeping for 500 years. They go forth and kill aliens and screw space-chicks.
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Post by codystarbuck on Jul 7, 2019 19:30:46 GMT -5
Watched some Buck Rogers in the 25th Century recently. Mildly entertaining, but there is one thing that irks me. Buck Rogers wakes up 500 years in the future. A "man out of time" theme isn't unique. But why are "men out of time" not screaming and losing their sanity? If I went into suspended animation now, and woke up 500 years, with all my family/friends long gone, I don't think it'd be long until I was in an asylum. How could you possibly retain your sanity if you woke up out of time? I remember seeing the Movie in the theater. It was much more serious than what it became in the TV show. True, with some innuendo that was cut for the tv broadcast. I saw it in theaters and loved it. Not quite Star Wars; but, pretty darn entertaining and way above the adventure standard for things outside of James Bond.
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Post by codystarbuck on Jul 7, 2019 19:37:45 GMT -5
To expand beyond my initial semi-snark. Rogers first appeared in Amazing Stories in the March '29 issue. While the pulps varied somewhat in their target audiences, the science fiction pulps generally skewed younger squarely aimed at an early teen audience. That story was then adapted as a comic strip, which were firmly all ages. Rogers was pure space opera in every medium in which he appeared, comics (strips and books), radio, movies, etc. And space opera tended to skew to young readers. The Buck Rogers TV show was aimed at an all-ages audience and wasn't going to mess with the formula that had been established in the prior 40+ years. You can also add the fact that in both versions, Buck wakes up to a world in danger and jumps right in to help, before really contemplating what isn't there. The movie and tv series do address these concerns, to a point. In the movie/pilot, Buck doesn't really process the loss until he sees the dead Chicago and the graves of his family. In the tv series, there are a few episodes that bring up what he has lost. There is one (forget what the McGuffin was) where Buck thinks he has returned to the past and sees his mother (I think) and then wakes up out of the dream/hallucination. The birthday episode (clip show) addresses it a bit, as did the Gary Coleman one. At the same time, you can rationalize the Gil gerard version as him setting out on a deep space exploration mission, and was already conditioned to lost time; just not that much. Also, as a classic astronaut, he would have been picked because of his ability to remain calm in stressful situations. Therefore, he is less likely to lose his BEEDEE-BEEDEE over stuff like that, relative to the average person. Plus, you know, Wilma, Marla Landers, and Princess Ardala; the future is so bright, Buck needs to wear shades!
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Post by Duragizer on Jul 12, 2019 1:50:19 GMT -5
Film is a visual medium, and it's the visual qualities of film which matter most. Subpar writing/acting can be forgiven if the aesthetics and atmosphere are stellar.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 12, 2019 5:22:33 GMT -5
Film is a visual medium, and it's the visual qualities of film which matter most. Subpar writing/acting can be forgiven if the aesthetics and atmosphere are stellar. Liked this very much ...
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Post by Deleted on Jul 12, 2019 6:16:27 GMT -5
Film Comics are a visual medium, and it's the visual qualities of film comics that matter most. Subpar writing/acting can be forgiven if the aesthetics and atmosphere are stellar.
Still true?
-M
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Post by Icctrombone on Jul 12, 2019 6:21:29 GMT -5
It's not true in any case. Writing and acting are the key components of a good film/play/TV show. As for comics, I think art will get you further than writing but I like both to be competent.
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Post by Cei-U! on Jul 12, 2019 9:10:53 GMT -5
Film Comics are a visual medium, and it's the visual qualities of film comics that matter most. Subpar writing/ acting can be forgiven if the aesthetics and atmosphere are stellar. Still true? -M Beat me to it.
Cei-U! I summon the great minds!
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Post by Reptisaurus! on Jul 12, 2019 11:29:26 GMT -5
Film Comics are a visual medium, and it's the visual qualities of film comics that matter most. Subpar writing/ acting can be forgiven if the aesthetics and atmosphere are stellar. Still true? -M Yeah, absolutely 100% true. (Moreso for comics than for film, because the penciller does the "acting" - body language, facial features, pacing of reactions - and that becomes part of the atmosphere.)
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Post by Reptisaurus! on Jul 12, 2019 11:42:07 GMT -5
Number one example: Ditko's Doctor Strange. Paper thing characters with the most simplistic of motivations, ("I'm the bad guy!" "I'm the hero!" I'm the damsel in distress!") a plot that spends a lot of time spinning it's wheels and then ends in some absolute %^$%ing nonsense. (PINCERS OF POWER! COME OOOOOONNNNNNNN!)
But illustrated by (inarguably) the best surrealist in mainstream comics and (probably) the best at depicting oppressive tension and psychological horror.
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Post by The Captain on Jul 12, 2019 11:56:02 GMT -5
Having the right people in your life with the right attitude and perspective can make all the difference.
My older daughter has hit a bit of a plateau in her swimming progress. She hasn't dropped any of her "seed times" (this is the fastest time a swimmer has achieved in a particular event) this year, and she's started to get a little discouraged about it, as most of her friends who are the same age and experience level are a little bit ahead of her in terms of their times.
Twice this week, however, important figures in her swim life were there to speak to her about what she's going through. On Tuesday, the only female coach for our club team (who my daughter cannot stand dealing with, as she feels this woman is demeaning and uninterested in providing any feedback) told her after her 50-yard freestyle swim (an event that my daughter placed 1st in but was still around 31.2 seconds, making her happy but unhappy at the same time) that she (the coach) went through the same plateau at my daughter's age and that with a little time to let her weight catch up to her height and some time in the weight room to build strength, she felt my daughter would break through the barrier and really take off. It was encouraging to my daughter to hear that from someone she felt wasn't interested in her progress.
Last night, at another meet, my daughter again was swimming well and finishing strong in her events, but her times were flat. Our head coach (who is also our HS varsity coach) had some time to talk with her and said that he knows she is discouraged by her times not improving, but that he sees her working at practice as hard or harder than the other kids on her team at her skill level and among the high-school swimmers, and that her dedication, along with her maturation physically, is going to pay off in the long run for her and she will get where she wants in time. He's really focused on her and another girl (one of my daughter's close friends) in terms of getting them in the weight room and to practice consistently, as he told me they are the keys to his varsity teams for the next 4-5 years if they put it together.
She got home last night in a much better place and was talking about all of the feedback and encouragement both coaches had given her this week after spending a few weeks down about her performances. We're grateful for these dedicated coaches and people in her life who can relay their experiences and wisdom to help her through a rough patch, and it's a good reminder that we all should be mindful about the impact our interactions can have on others as we encounter them, as we never know how we can turn a bad day into a good one or vice versa.
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Post by Duragizer on Jul 12, 2019 16:45:27 GMT -5
It's not true in any case. Writing and acting are the key components of a good film/play/TV show. I take it you're not a fan of Un Chien Andalou.
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Post by Roquefort Raider on Jul 13, 2019 8:14:29 GMT -5
It's not true in any case. Writing and acting are the key components of a good film/play/TV show. I take it you're not a fan of Un Chien Andalou. Excellent example! And as far as comic-book comparisons go, I’d put forward a typical comic drawn and written by Neal Adams. Great visually and worth reading, but definitely not for the plot or dialogue! (Yes, Ms. Mystic #1... I’m looking at you).
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Post by Duragizer on Aug 13, 2019 19:24:19 GMT -5
Ms. Ridley needs to be in a horror film.
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Post by berkley on Aug 13, 2019 20:25:12 GMT -5
Who is that?
Ultra-close-ups can be creepy looking no matter how attractive the subject.
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